Voting Saturday 16th |May

sonatigh

bullshit,

we all have a vested interest, just because you live there doesnt mean you care more than me or any other owner on condado, we have all bought into this, and i have certainly worked very hard to get this and dont want to waste my money or my vote, but please dont under estimate people or voters just because they dont live there.

PS. what about the gardens with no residents, or residents who dont wish to stand, or residents who dont know about EOS, or any other forums, be careful what you say or YOU wont get any votes,and there a lot more non residents than residents, a word of warning for a nominee, be carefull

Mick,

That email is out of order, you say "Nobody should create Fiction" then you go and post unsubstantiated accusations?

Whilst some of the points you make are valid, I believe that now in the light of day you should either edit this post to remove some of the less than truthful remarks or remove it completely.

Phil

THIS IS ALL VERY INTERESTING - thought I'd bought into a holiday home concept not some sort of political power struggle.

What and or who is this association condado de alhama ? There are a lot of people standing under that banner, do they have a policy , agenda, etc - what, who are we voting for, are their interests, concerns for the benefit of all residents ? If this group is elected en masse they will have a very powerful position which may be a good thing, but I don't know, and how can I tell if we don't know what their purpose is ?

PTAN are you an association member standing for election ? Why such a hostile reaction to Mick ?

Have I got this wrong?

My understanding is that I vote for myself or give my proxy vote to somebody within my block or community of level 3 i.e in my case jardin 2 Naranjos.

In turn, whomever is elected for that jardin then casts votes for level 2. I have no vote in this (unless I have been adopted as president of my jardin) as it is the preseidents of the block/jardin that elect the level 2 Presidente's

Therefore, why would I give my proxy vote to any one other than in my jardin? Particularly why would I give my proxy vote to Sonatigh in Jardin 4?

Personally I agree that it is preferable to have somebody that is resident or at least on site in personal more often than not to represent me and my interests as they can see what is going on, however that is personal choice.

Hi All

Mike, I started reading your post and in the main agreed with your comments until you started providing your own unsubstantiated remarks, If you have evidential knowledge of wrongdoing or ulterior motives then please say so but please don’t just cast out seeds of doubt. Of the many things you read and herd on the forum and at Condado please advise of the facts with your evidence and dispel the fiction so all can be well informed.

I have no substantive knowledge of this group although I do know they have held at least one meeting to which they invited all to attend.

I do know they have along with others managed to achieve a reduction in our budget.

I also know this and the other pressure groups on the resort are the only voice that has been listened to so far by PW & RPM.

I haven’t given my proxy to this group, as I was able to give it to a person who I know is attending the meeting and has agreed to cast my vote in line with my wishes. However as I understand it this group have offered to cast people’s votes for them but have asked that when sending them the proxy they indicate how they wish to vote. As far as individuals standing as garden/block reps are concerned I appreciate them putting their names forward, it is the person you have as the garden rep you have to give as much consideration to as you are able as it’s the only individual you vote for. You are correct that the EOS forum is just one small percentage of the owners at Condado, so others may be standing also, which is my personal area of difficulty as if another is standing I didn’t know about I will not be able to switch my vote if I wished to this year but in the future hopefully people will campaign within gardens/blocks. Its my opinion that I would rather an owner, resident or otherwise, be my representative as long as they can give the commitment instead of a PW rep who is less likely act in my interest, which is the alternative as I understand it, and remember your representative is only in post for one year so can be changed when we have alternative interested people.

Once the representatives are voted in even if they have originally come from this or other pressure groups, these groups become irrelevant, as it’s the owners they become answerable to and not the group they may have come from, if we don’t like how they perform we vote for someone else next year. Yes to a significant degree we are taking a chance on voting for people we hardly know but as owners they are more likely to have the interest Condado at their core.

I am not a full time resident and of itself don’t see how that matters albeit desirable just as the ability to speak Spanish is desirable. I am not at the moment in a position to spend enough time in Condado or in my opinion work properly in the owners interest, for this reason I personally wouldn’t stand as a rep but in the future if I am able to give enough commitment to my garden owners and Condado I would consider putting myself forward, especially if I considered I could do a better job that the person currently in post whoever that is. Whomever my representatives I will definitely be a thorn in the side of, as I am passionate about this place especially as we have put our life saving into it

Phil

It is getting like a policitical power struggle and every time you make a comment against this association, you are shot down. We will be giving our proxy vote to the person who we think will make the best choice for ourselves.

The priority for us is to get this community up and running and for the presidents to work together to make our resort the best possible for both residents and non residents - whoever this may be.

At the moment, we've got people arguing about votes, community fees and even an ongoing rift between the penthouses and jardines.  Can't we just all get on?

Hhhmmm, If there is only one volunteer for your garden, which from what I can see there is. And they belong to said association that have not consulted us and we dont know there motives then who on earth are we going to vote for??

Its like them or no-one isn't it?

And surely they are better than no-one?

Help.

Hi Mike & Dawn

Hi All,

Jeb,  No I am not in any way related to the association. my only connection is that my proxy was initially given to David Ingman, who now cannot attend the meeting as he's wife has been taken into hospital. Another resident has offered to take the proxies that David was holding, which just happen to include a member of the association.  Re-read the posting, to me is is saying that the association are doing things underhand, have a hidden agenda and 'wish to run the resort'.  these are all assumptions.  If anyone wants to know the views of the association, do as I did and ask them - they have been around for months, they then added me to their mailing list together with a number of other owners.  To be clear, I have absolutely nothing personal against Mick, in fact if I were an owner in his garden I'd vote for him, as in my view a resident always trumps a non-resident 

Brett, You can give your proxy vote to any owner from any garden, and just tell them how you wish to vote, but in the level 3 elections you can only vote for the president in your garden.  So you could give your vote to your keyholder for example, or anyone else you trust and get him to vote on your behalf.  Rememeber it's not just the level 3 presidents your voting for, it's the budget and administrators as well.

Hope that clears this up.

Phil

But regarding the president for each garden if there is only one person standing then we will HAVE to vote for them?

If another candidate comes forward at the meeting it will be too late to change our minds if we are not there.

I am inclined to vote for the volunteer form association condado alhama as he is the only one volunteering in my garden but I don't know much about how he plans to vote.

Unfortunate really that they dont buse this forum, this association and talk to us more. They have supporters on here from what I can see but no actual members of this group?

Tara

Hi Tara,

Like you I am happy to vote for the only person brave enough to stand for president of our Jardine (7), but  can only presume as part of the group working hard on our behalf that they are voting for the right way forward.  It is a pity that they don't use EOS to post more information about their work.

It also seems a shame that our president is not a full time resident that could keep a close eye on what is happening.

Carol Anne

Is there anyone on here who knows the associationcondado people, who can tell me if they are in favour of retaining RPM as the managemnet company for now, and if they plan on voting on the approval of the budget.

We really need to know what their fews are on this before we vote someone who has different views to us.

Hi Carol Anne, not that many people on here from garden 7, PM me with your door number and when you are out again if you want, so we can say hi.

Tara

Tara the asscociationcondado want to replace RPM.

Dan

Hi,

I am not sure if I am in favour of trying replace RPM at this stage, feel it may be better to give them a year to see if they can deliver.

I f that is the case I need to be sure that I am using my vote wisely.

Tara,

We are in 669 how about you. Don't think we will be back over until July when school is off.

Carol Anne